They said what?!!?(2)

Andy equates Jesus to the rump of an ox

A. Lanning  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbBoxK7xOz4&t=3750s Jesus’ Doctrine of the Cross May 1, 2022

C. 1 hr min 2:38. “Jesus is God’s backside, God’s hinder parts, he is God’s rump. Now you are offended … now your religious sentiment is offended … did not God himself say to Moses … I will show you my hinder parts, with the very same word that is used elsewhere in scripture for the rump of an ox. … [God] will show Moses his rump … and that’s your salvation“.

The word/phrase for God’s backside in Hebrew is not the same Hebrew word for ‘rump of an ox’. Andy’s assertion is false.

ox rump
Some Hebrew

Hebrew for ‘rump’ is: עַכּוּז. Hebrew for ‘rump of an ox’ is: גבשושית של שור

So also, Hebrew for ‘backside’ is: יַשׁבָן. Hebrew for ‘hinder parts’ is: להפריע לחלקים. Finally, Hebrew for ‘God’s backside’ is: הצד האחורי של אלוהים.

But the KJV uses ‘back parts’ which in Hebrew is: חלקים אחוריים. So, it does not take a Hebrew expert to see that the words ‘rump’ and ‘back parts’ do not look the same. From this I also assume they are not the same word, as Andy claims.

Matthew Henry writes about God’s back parts

After explaining how in man, the face is the seat of his majesty. And saying that that is how we know a person. Henry writes, “Moses might not have that sight of God. But his view was as a man who has gone past us. We only see his back, and have (as we say) a blush of him. More like a glimpse of his fleeting backward glance toward us”. ~Matthew Henry

So also for us today, we cannot look at God. Rather, “we can only look after him (Gen. 16:13); for we see through a glass darklyWhen we see what God has done in his worksobserve the goings of our God, our King, we see (as it were) his back-parts ~Matthew Henry.

John Owen explaining the back part of God

As John Owen writes in exposition, “The face of God, or the gracious majesty of his Being, his essential glory, is not to be seen of any in this life; we cannot see him as he is. But the glorious manifestation of himself [i.e. Christ] we may behold and contemplate. This we may see as the back parts of God; that shadow of his excellencies which he casteth forth in passing by us in his works and dispensations. This Moses shall see. And wherein did it consist? Why, in the revelation, and declaration of this name of God. Ex. 34.6-7. To be known by this name, to be honored, feared, believed, as that declares him, is the great glory of God.” ~Owen’s Expos of Ps 53, edition 1851, vol 6. P. 481.


Based on these forefathers’ writings; when we think of God’s ‘back parts’, we should first and foremost think of the cross.

We should also think of the covenant name of God – Jehovah. Moses was shown something in this moment that even the Patriarchs and Noah were not shown. He saw the full impact of that name; Ex. 6:2-3. See Got Questions, 6th paragraph. Therefore, we also should think of the salvation that that very Name brings!

Jesus saves

Rev. Langerak’s graphic language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l-DlKn21FY&t=4261s Asking Counsel at a Stock 1/23/2021

C. 1 hr. min 11.  “Such is the intimate fellowship of worship that God likens it to a husband and wife together in bed, God is on his wife”.

repulsed woman

Besides being unnecessarily graphic, it is shallow to suggest that physical expression is the extent of the intimacy in marriage. Intimacy of marriage goes far beyond physical expression.

Secondly, marriage is the picture, but not the exact description of the actual relationship. That is because pictures have limits in their correlation to the reality; even every parable was limited.

Finally, in the Bible, the picture of marriage is not to signify the relationship between ‘God, the Father, and the believer’ by a direct relationship; but it signifies the relationship between ‘Christ and the church’, by the Spirit, and through the preaching. This might seem an insignificant difference. But God saves within the church and through our membership in it; He doesn’t save randomly here and there, striking up a relationship with us apart from His Son or the Son’s Body.


Our relationship of fellowship with the Father is by Christ alone; but that is in the church, through the preaching and partaking of the sacraments, and the communion of the saints. Christ’s mediatorial work is involved: He brings us God’s words (preached), and brings our words (our praise, supplication and prayer) to the Father.

Furthermore, this is all worked by the Holy Spirit. This is exactly because there cannot be a direct relationship between finite humans and God the Father. God Almighty ordained that His only access to us, and ours to Him, is through His Son, by the Spirit, as members of the Body, the church catholic.

Two lovers?

Rev. NL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAFy3llqoWA&t=2822s Obey Your Parents LD 39 Apr. 24, 2022

C. min 47. “Such closeness that the Father is in the Son and the Son is in the Father and that life of God is a covenant life, is revealed by the name Holy Spirit; spirit just means breath. You have to think of two lovers who are panting together, they share each other’s breath, that’s closeness.

disgusted man
A Father and his son are two lovers panting together??

One might consider defending all of this graphic language by pointing to the Song of Solomon. But that is not what that book teaches, nor is that the style used. The Song of Solomon does not use explicit language. The Song is about Christ and the church. Finally, there is nothing sexual about preaching, singing, prayer or devotions in the home.

By Brenda Hoekstra

The misleading refrains of hyper-grace have entagled many whom we love and care about. This blog is to help articulate how this is an error and shed light on the subtle differences that make it a departure from the Reformation's truths. All my posts are discussed and verified by the head of this household before they go live.